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September 28, 2005

Joanna Angel: Burning it up

BlueCine proudly presents our Jonathan Marlow's interview with Joanna Angel, actress and entrepreneur.

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Welcome back to Los Angeles! You were working on the new Eon McKai film, yes?

It was awesome. We're good friends and really respect and inspire each other in different ways. It was a lot of fun.

When did you two become friends?

We met at the AVN awards. Right before AVN, when Art School Sluts came out, I decided that this guy should be my friend. So I just sent him an email and said, "I'm going to be at AVN and we should totally meet up. I read about you and I really like what you do." We met and I felt like we knew each other forever. We're really close, like brother and sister. I even have a key to his house. Sometimes I come over and clean his kitchen! Last time I came to his house we stayed up talking until five in the morning. We have a really nice mutual respect for one another.

Eon suggested that you sign-up with Bad Ass Models?

Yeah. When I was coming to L.A. I decided that I should try to work with some other companies. Eon told me that I should call up Frank [Prather].

Was it also at his suggestion that you connect with VCA?

He recommended a couple people to them and I was the only one that made it. It wasn't just because Eon put in a word for me. I had to do the work on my own!

You're all of five feet tall. You seem taller on the site.

I know. That's because I wear big shoes. But yeah, I'm just barely five feet tall.

Your "personal profile" also lists some of the music you like and, since music plays such a large role on your site, it makes perfect sense. I will state plainly, right here, that Blonde Redhead is one of the greatest bands ever.

It's good to talk with someone that agrees with me! It's nice to get interviewed by someone who knows about music.

How did you settle on Brooklyn, specifically Williamsburg, as a home for your site?

It actually started in New Jersey when I was in college at Rutgers. Me and my friend Mitch started it during my senior year of school. I grew up in New Jersey and lived there my whole life. I knew that I wanted to move to New York because that's what everybody does when you live in New Jersey. We just decided on Williamsburg because it's kind of a fun, young, cool place to live. It's important to live somewhere like that when you're running the business we're running.

You decided that the website would be great way to intersect the things that you like, such as music and...

...and sex and tattoos. It's really a reflection of me.

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How did you arrive at the decision to produce your first DVD? Was that always something that you wanted to do?

No, it wasn't. When the web site first started, we got all this attention and people were like, "What is Burning Angel? Is it punk, is it alternative, is it this, is it that?" - trying to figure out what to call it, how to categorize it, which is kind of annoying. It was hard because doing something positive and empowering for women is difficult in the porn industry.

I kind of got lost in doing what other people wanted Burning Angel to be. I didn't even really know what I wanted to do. I started to make Burning Angel into this artsy photo site.

When I went to AVN, just to see what everything was all about, I had this porn site and yet knew nothing about porn at all. At AVN, I was like, "It's not about how much filth is in your content." You can make a really dirty porno with all of those things that are in regular porno, like ATMs and DPs and facials and whatever, but you can do it in a way that's fun. Just because it's dirty doesn't mean it's bad! You can still make something artistic and funny, make it fit your personality and while making it dirty at the same time. That's when I decided that we should make DVDs, to make a transition from a "softcore" to a "hardcore" site.

How did you decide which of the girls on the site you were going to feature on the DVD, like Nancy Jade and Jezebelle Bond. Was it difficult for the ladies to commit to the film?

No. That's what we do!

It's an extension of the web site.

Yeah, it is. You know, it was a little difficult. It was the first time I had to look for guys, and finding male performers was hard.

And Tommy Pistol was up to the challenge?

[laughs] Yeah, he was!

Have you talked to many of the bands that you interviewed since the disc was released? My Chemical Romance and bands like that. Have they seen it and commented to you?

Yeah, they all love it. I've been in the music scene for so long. I have a really good, mutual respect for all my friends in bands. Because of that, people were really helpful when I wanted to make this DVD.

Do you plan on making another one of the same sort?

We've got another movie, Joanna's Angels, coming out on VCA now and that was pretty cool because I actually had a budget to work with. I shot that in and around New York. Different places in Manhattan and around there. I want to make a Burning Angel 2. I had an idea. Should I say it, should I say what I'm going to do in part two?

No. Yeah, you can say it. Go ahead and say it.

I want to interview all the bands naked. I think that would be cool. A lot of people who'd never heard of the bands would skip over the interviews. I'm trying to think of ways to make the interviews better if you really don't care about them.

The script for Joanna's Angels is your own creation?

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Yeah, I wrote it.

Were you already considering making this idea into a film before VCA got involved?

Ideas always come to me at weird times. I was driving around one day and it just came to me. I was like, "We should make a superhero movie called Joanna's Angels." When I originally thought of the idea, I wanted to make an all girl/girl one, since there's 100 girls on the site and not all of them will do boy/girl. When VCA said they would fund a movie, I really wanted to use the Joanna's Angels idea, but just turned it around to make it a feature. It just started as an idea because I liked the title. I think of Charlie's Angels as a movie that was meant to be a porno. Nobody really watched it for any other reason than to see the girls. It's totally marketed as this kitschy "girl power" type thing. I think that's appropriate for the nature of Burning Angel.

VCA allowed you to cast whomever you wanted? I see that you're still working with Kylee Kross and Sabrina Sparx...

Yeah, it was all me. There are certain things they'll try and change, here and there. They'll add to the box cover or take things away. And there were definitely guidelines I have to follow. But they accepted my idea and really didn't try and creatively control the project. It was more like "quality control." At Burning Angel, we let a lot of things fly. You know, being an amateur company, talking in the background, little screw-ups here and there.

I wanted to talk briefly about Re-Penetrator [a single-scene pseudo-remake of Stuart Gordon's Re-Animator - with sex]. How did Re-Penetrator come about?

It was born from Tommy Pistol. We were just sitting around in September of last year. He was like, "Hey, you know what would be really cool? If we made some zombie-horror-porno movie for Halloween." I was like, "That's actually a good idea. We should do it." So I called my friend Doug [Sakmann] because Doug makes horror movies. He made this movie called Punk Rock Holocaust. It's this really funny movie about the Warped Tour. I was like, "Hey! Would you help me make a horror movie porno thing?" I didn't know how to even begin. Then we just kind of brainstormed. He said, "Oh, we should make it like a spoof," and then emailed [his idea] to me. I thought, "Whoa, this is awesome!" Then we just did it. It came to fruition in all of twenty-five minutes.

With this film, you've actually crossed the American taboo of mixing violence and sex. Has anyone given you any flack over it?

Yeah, we've gotten a lot of flack for it. We had to take it off of the Internet. Everybody hates Re-Penetrator. It's discrimination against zombies! We were asked by our billing company to take it off of Burning Angel. So we had to put it on www.repenetrator.com, which is hosted by this European online company. Apparently, the Europeans like zombies better than the Americans do!

Well, they don't have the same laws.

Yeah. So people started coming to me every day asking, "When's Re-Penetrator coming to DVD?" I intended for that to happen but didn't think I could put just that one scene on a disc. Usually a DVD is two-hours long. I thought maybe we'll make other horror spoofs and put them altogether whenever it's done. People wanted it so badly that I was like, "Alright, we'll just put this one scene on DVD." I felt like I was cheating people, but everybody loved it so much that they wanted to own it. We did put different cuts of the film on there. We had a little shorter "screener" cut, so we could show it at parties and stuff, and also a longer one. We put both versions on the disc and then we did a "director's commentary" over them.

When you screened it last Halloween, how did the audience react?

Nobody feels lukewarm about Re-Penetrator. Half the people walked out and the other half screamed to play it again.

Independently, you and Eon and a handful of others are seemingly changing the direction of the business. It's very reassuring since the industry has been stagnant for some time. It's good to see a return of "normal people" to adult films. "Normal" in the sense that they're not surgically enhanced. Unless you consider tattoos as "enhanced."

Well, thank you.

When do you find time to do all this stuff?

I don't know how I find time to do anything!

You decided to appear in Eon's new film, Neu Wave Hookers, which is also a forthcoming VCA release. Were you familiar with the original series? Have you seen any of them?

No! Eon always makes fun of me because he knows all this stuff about old school porn and I don't really know anything. I watched my first porno a year ago!

In a sense, perhaps you're better off...

So I had heard of it. Eon showed it to me. I didn't really know much about it.

He's trying to do something very different with the series, I wager. Now that you're branching out into different films, it seems to be part of a larger career path. A path that extends beyond Burning Angel.

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I guess so. I don't really think about the future that much. I just kind of let things happen. There are some directors that I really do respect and I like working with them. I only work with people I can gain something from [experience-wise]. Eon's one of those people. I did a movie for Jules Jordan but only one scene. I don't know when it's coming out. I did one for Adam & Eve that Tristan Taormino directed. She's my favorite person in the world! I look forward to working with some other people. [Joanna also appears in Irvin Bomb's Naughty Art: Art School Models ].

You keep a relatively regular diary on the site. Would you ever want to publish a book?

There happens to be a book coming out next month, called Naked Ambition. It's a book about sex, with a lot of different women, including myself, contributing chapters. That's exciting for me because it's always been a dream to have something published. Having one chapter is a step in the right direction.

Burning Angel is slowly becoming a media empire. Perhaps you'll soon have your own television show at this rate! Not unlike Suicide Girls, you've also taken the Angels on the road. You perform in the live shows as well, right?

I do. I do like performances. I do it all!